Oh noez..not just another thread about LS/LDoA XD

[Phoenix Tears]

As the Topic sais ...

but I'M at the opinion, that those 2 Titles need finally a fix ...those 2 titles are somewhat of bad concepted....that it makes sick, especially when you see as player over time now..that the Legendary Survivor Titles gets from time to time ever more easier to receive, while nothing gets changed on LDoA to fix finaly the problem about that title being bad concepted and destroying the games fun..letting the gamer's know, that they exists something in the game....that you will never have...in kind of which choice you took. either if you go now farming exp safely via Kilroy Boxing Runs and max the title in less then 10 hours oO (before Eotn was out..it took at least like several das, if you were very well prepared and decked with massively loads of lightbringer scrolls)

AND for LDoA u need ages of deathleveling oO .... which is the big problem about LDoA..not to mention..that deathlevelign has absolutely nothing to do with defending Ascalon.....or what is please legendary of dieing hundreds to thousands of times vs one and a same monster..until it get strong enough to give you some crappy Exp points oO ??? and then repeating this absolutely annoying boring UBERGRIND...until your finally Lvl 20 in a TUTORIAL

Come on !!! there are really better ways of rewarding people, which stay in pre searing for logn time ... it hasn't to be a bad concepted title ...
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I want to see finally getting the LS/LDoA title getting FIXED.... of those teams of anet find the time..to bring updates for such stupid non interesting things, like changing any buttons in the online store or fixing bugs of quests and skills..then those teams should really also find the time to fix finally the issue about the LS/LDoA title, giving those titles a better thought out concept, that works better and which don't neutralize each other in kind of their requirements to make it possible, to receive both titles...to have a max number of 35 maxable titles (which could in the end also result maybe in a new highest tier for the KoaBD title, getting something new between the mahagoni and the god amongst mere mortals)
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Also I'm for the change..that titles..anything, also meaning the account based titles shouldn't be able to be shown in the pre searing tutorial or any other tutorial areas....

tutorial areas ARE meant for beginners and not for gw playing absolute old rabbits, which want to show in the tutorials only with their titles..how pro they are...in the tutorial areas..everyone shold be shown in the same way ..
no one can show titles, if they have some.. the levels of the characters doesn't get shown (u see them only, when in group search- instead of x/x ...u see then for example in the group search x/x-10)
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LDoA needs to be changed:

The title must become a Non Presearing Title....players have to defend REALLY Ascalon..so that the name of the title will fianlly fit.
Give us several Elite Quests, something similar to the Mallyx Quest Row, which you can receive after finishing the prophecies Campaign ..like for example a extra hard new Titan Quest, letting the Lich send also a Titan Army to the Ruins of Ascalon City, to kill the heroes there, which use it as outpost, something like a little "ragequit order" of the lich, when he dies then he comes of with a sentence, saying, that he has a hidden titan army send to ascalon, while they fight here or something ...anythign like this what reasons the implemention of such a new elite quest..
make it a quest...playable by 12-16 people, than you can create a real epic battle vs titans thats worth the title. start is the great wall...when u click there then an quest npc..people land in a randomous 12-16 man group ^^
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LS has to be changed:

not very much, but old characters, which have they registry date older, than the date of the implementaton of the titles should be able to reset one time only for a temporaly time their death counter to 0 for 1 try to receive LS ..
and when they die..people had their chance and their death counters will revert back to their old state+1 death... like as when you set for your PC's a recovery point
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Now the important point of this Thread... what should be the new reward for perma presearing Characters, when not the title ?

There are loads of different things...

Special Equipments, which are only usable in presearing, which your character will be able to receive, once the character has stayed over for example 1 Month of actual playing in presearing ... (and don't count for HoM)

Special Armors, that are only wearable in presearing, which you could receive, once your character stays over 3 Months of actual playing in presearing ...(and don't count for HoM)

Special customized Event head gears, that can be received only via presearing for staying longer than 6 months of actual playing with your char in presearing.
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sure..this would mean some work and is in the end alot more work..than giving all simple only a very bad concepted title just for reaching lvl 20 after massively UBERGRIND of deathleveling...but in the end its alot more rewarding perma pre characters..then this title

or give perma pre characters..when they reach level 20 instead of the title an own emote ...similar to the heros emote.. but just somethign different..i'm for example for an emote..showing gailes FROG jumping around ^^
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Please Anet..if you care really for your game..show us..that you can fix somehow the problems about LS/LDoA..like you try to fix all other things like bugs ect. too....and when you have tiem to fix Bugs..then you can find the time for fixing those 2 titles too ...

[lyra_song]

/not signed for special rewards
/not signed fo changing LDoA
/signed for you to stop making threads

I mean seriously. You have some bad bad bad bad bad ideas.

LDoA is a grind title. It has no special functions. Deal with it.

[Mike_version2]

Originally Posted by lyra_song

/signed for you to stop making threads

I'll /sign that

[Mitchel]

Originally Posted by Mike_version2

I'll /sign that

QFT, also no need to change the titles.

[Pure Disasta]

Originally Posted by lyra_song

/not signed for special rewards
/not signed fo changing LDoA
/signed for you to stop making threads

I mean seriously. You have some bad bad bad bad bad ideas.

LDoA is a grind title. It has no special functions. Deal with it.

Pretty much the feeling I got, thank you.

[MirkoTeran]

Originally Posted by lyra_song

/not signed for special rewards
/not signed fo changing LDoA
/signed for you to stop making threads

/signed to limit the number of Phoenix Tears-es posts to one per day.... err.. make that a week.

[MagmaRed]

Shut Up!

Titles mean nothing to anyone, but YOU. It does not effect how well you play the game, with the exception of a handfull of titles like Lightbringer. Even then, it is restricted to a small part of the game where it makes a difference.

If YOU want these titles, get them. If you can't, nobody cares. These titles do not mean anything to anyone but YOU.

Shut Up!

Maybe, just maybe you can take the hint. How many posts have you made about this crap? How many times have people told you it was stupid? How many people have disagreed with you? NOBODY CARES BUT YOU

/signed for no posts by Phoenix on this crap anymore.

[elektra_lucia]

/signed for no posts by Phoenix on this crap anymore.

[netniwk]

Lets lynch him while we are at it!!

[You can't see me]

Originally Posted by lyra_song

/not signed for special rewards
/not signed fo changing LDoA
/signed for you to stop making threads

I mean seriously. You have some bad bad bad bad bad ideas.

LDoA is a grind title. It has no special functions. Deal with it.

He pretty much summed up all I'd say to this, minus the flaming.

[Shadow Spirit]

/notsigned.

If you don't like the titles, don't go for them. Pretty simple...

[Shayne Hawke]

Since nobody here is interested in improving on the idea and would rather bash Phoenix's head in, I've come to throw in my two cents.

Here is the location of a thread for the Survivor title change that I most support.

Here is a thread concerning LDoA, from which I'd like to quote someone.

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

It is. It was meant to price those who stayed in pre-Searing. So those who leave pre-Searing MUST lose the title.

A character that was there and gained level 20 before the update won't get the title. A newly created character can now get the title and leave.

To be fair. It MUST vanish once the character leave.

I agree mainly with what I've bolded: It was meant purely for characters who were staying in pre-Searing. But wait... Why do pre-Searing characters need titles? Why should they have titles?

LDoA doesn't need to disappear from a character once they leave pre-Searing. LDoA shouldn't even exist. Like Phoenix said, the name of the title and the method of achieving it are almost perfect opposites, and like I argue, it has no purpose nor meaning in pre-Searing, which is the group it was intended for.

[Rinadan Farhunt]

[Tender Wolf]

Ouch...so much hate...*runs away from it all*

Okay I can see where the OP and the posters are coming from, but here's my 2 cents:

/signed for making Legendary Survivor easier
/signed for fixing LDoA (or deleting it altogether
/notsigned for making account titles hidden in Pre-Searing

[Tyla]

/notsigned
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[street peddler]

just leave it be

[Sleeper Service]

what Shayne Hawke said.

Gratuitous flaming ftl.

[TaCktiX]

If you don't want to do the grind, don't do it. I've posted this elsewhere tons of times, LDoA honors what people were doing anyway. They were leveling their characters to Level 20 purely for the heck of it. The presearing community is a world unto itself, and all the post-searing hate is completely misdirected for they don't try to understand Pre-searing. It may be a tutorial to you, but it's the most rewarding gameplay experience to others.

Legendary Survivor, I wouldn't mind the ability to have one shot on it. I have a Necromancer with 7.2 million experience that would be quite challenging to grind 1.3375 million experience with, especially considering she's LSH, Legendary Guardian, and Tyrian Vanquisher (very few freebie xp's left).

[Loviatar]

i have not seen a *make it easier* thread that you have not personally started (4 just recently right?) or signed with enthusiasm

dont like it dont do it.

if you cant make the drok run have a *friend* whine make it easier

[Drake Eleric]

I just want them both for same character. Anet please add a quest that spawns lvl 13 creatures in Pre.

/not signed though